1.0 ecoboost timing chain or belt check

[P6Baseunit]

Well that’s VERY worrying as the mk4 Focus engine is the same engine as the Puma!

Try getting your facts right before getting your knickers in a twist.
The mk4 Focus was released in 2018 and had the early engine wet belt ( I know this because I had one).
The new revised engine came out and went into the Puma, so it's NOT the same.

All of the examples that I have seen, when I looked at the varies groups on Facebook and the internet forums/clubs for the Focus -
The owners were very precise - "I own a 2019 Focus with the revised engine, with a chain cam and my oil pump has failed because the belt broke up" for example

[Sparks]

My twopence worth....The 2019 registered focus would be the 2018 engines. The Puma is a late 2019 manufacture and most were 2020 registered, my First Edition certainly was. So, probably the newer engine in the Puma...

[steve a]

My twopence worth....The 2019 registered focus would be the 2018 engines. The Puma is a late 2019 manufacture and most were 2020 registered, my First Edition certainly was. So, probably the newer engine in the Puma...

Hallelujah
I traded my 2019 Focus (with the old design) for a Puma partly because of the revised engine (155ps), I wouldn't say the old engine bothered that much as it was fully serviced so I didn't see it as a real issue.
Posting an article about a 2019 Focus with the wrong oil has NOTHING to do with the PUMA revised engine, but I suppose some people like to spread rumours
Show us some real evidence

[simonr23]

On the older wet belt engine (non Puma), if the car is full main dealer serviced and it failed, Ford has agreed to fix it even if it was out of warranty.

In the UK? I haven’t seen any documentation from Ford Europe or UK, only US. Have Europe/UK now acknowledged the issue?

The pump causes the catastrophic failures. The pump ‘fails’ due it’s its inlet being clogged with pieces of the cam belt (and its own belt- but there is more cam belt to go around!).

So the sentence is literally correct, but the chronology can be misconstrued.

And the Puma has a wet belt on the oil pump, which is actually where the failure initiates.

Everything I have seen says and shows its the cambelt that causes the failure - you got an sources that show its the oil belt?

[4251]

I had a 1.0 125hp mk 4 on a 20 plate for a while and it definitely had the same chain/belt engine as the Puma. And it’s been said over and over again all Puma’s are Chain cam, wet belt oil pump engines.

Hasn’t someone already posted evidence above mentioning a chain/belt engine failure? I really hope not too, I’ve got a 1.5 version, but I try to avoid being an ostrich. As stated many times the failure is caused initially by the oil pump belt and tensioner failing, the Puma engines still have a wet oil pump belt. Only time will tell, it’s still early days.

[Mattyg]

I have a 68 plate focus with the same new engine. There are failings of for the oil pump belt on other sites but maybe wrong oil used by previous owners. I have done oil changes at 9k at 2 year intervals with the castrol oil (fowned upon by the guys rebuilding the older engine) . I'm looking to get shut of it now due to it being 5 year old (30k) and ecoboost experts are saying that the belts are not the only issue with the ecoboost and worrying about belts might not be it's demise in terms for the chain engine. They are just shite ford engines. I have seen a puma and bmax on fire! I hope I have no issues but there are some chain 18k service interval focuses on the mk4. Puma owners may be should keep their eye on these cars are they are hitting the 5 year old + mark.

[steve a]

I have a 68 plate focus with the same new engine.

That will be the OLD ENGINE THEN.
Another rumour munger making baseless claims, might as well put "the bloke down the pun said"

[LittlePuma]

Hi guys, I can't find the schedule for the camshaft chain replacement.
Then due to cost of the operation wouldn't it be wiser to make the check of both the cam chain and the oil pump belt during the same operation?
Life span of parts are different for sure but one time you're there, I suppose the belt is not that expensive to replace.

[Mattyg]

I have a 68 plate focus with the same new engine.

That will be the OLD ENGINE THEN.
Another rumour munger making baseless claims, might as well put "the bloke down the pun said"

Hope you are right. In my area the ecoboost specialists build shit loads of the old engine and many of the new one I've got. Look on ecoboost nightmare - problems with the new engines aswell. Mine is going still even if you are right because I listen to the guys building them in Rochdale.

[Mattyg]

Hi guys, I can't find the schedule for the camshaft chain replacement.
Then due to cost of the operation wouldn't it be wiser to make the check of both the cam chain and the oil pump belt during the same operation?
Life span of parts are different for sure but one time you're there, I suppose the belt is not that expensive to replace.

I have spoke to someone who rebuilds mk3, 3.5 and the new chain engines in my area. I asked him about checking the oil pump. This was his initial answer on messenger. I don't know if this helps:

Hi, it’s a chain engine so pretty easy to remove the sump as the cat and exhaust are not in the way like the older belt engines, the issue you will have is if the oil pump belt has degraded you need to strip the timing chain off to remove which is a very big job, don’t just go off the condition of the pick up itself, inspect the oil pump belt thoroughly, is it a manual or an automatic?